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Is Marsh Ogre a (Troll-kind)

Post by Clithgow on Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:36 pm

Loremasters guide page 108-09. Its in the Trolls section but didnt' seem to get the (Troll-kind) designation like the others. Should it have? I suppose it doesn't really matter since Creature specific action and abilities on page 120 apparently apply to both Trolls and Ogres.

Any reason anyone can see?

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Post by Wbweather on Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:34 pm

I think it is, but let me ask someone who might know better than I
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Re: Is Marsh Ogre a (Troll-kind)

Post by BytomMan on Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:14 pm

I think that an Ogre is a Troll the same way a Goblin is an Orc.

Clithgow wrote:Loremasters guide page 108-09. Its in the Trolls section but didnt' seem to get the (Troll-kind) designation like the others. Should it have? I suppose it doesn't really matter since Creature specific action and abilities on page 120 apparently apply to both Trolls and Ogres.

Any reason anyone can see?

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Re: Is Marsh Ogre a (Troll-kind)

Post by Clithgow on Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:37 am

BytomMan wrote:I think that an Ogre is a Troll the same way a Goblin is an Orc.

Agreed...but all the of the Goblin Entries I've seen have said Small humanoid (Orc-kind) where as the Marsh Ogre is the only entry that doesn't say Large (Troll-kind).

I expect it is just a typo or oversight.

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Post by Wbweather on Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:04 am

I think the "correct" answer is that an ogre is not a troll (or a troll-kind), but it's own unique species of creature. Some things are mentioned by Tolkien without being given much detail. Ogres are one such thing. They are intentionally not given a troll-kind designation and I have been told that this is not a typo or oversight.
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Re: Is Marsh Ogre a (Troll-kind)

Post by Clithgow on Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:55 am

Wbweather wrote:I think the "correct" answer is that an ogre is not a troll (or a troll-kind), but it's own unique species of creature. Some things are mentioned by Tolkien without being given much detail. Ogres are one such thing. They are intentionally not given a troll-kind designation and I have been told that this is not a typo or oversight.

It amazes me how anal I start getting over odd little details as I input my campaign into Realm Works. Thanks for the input all!

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